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Monsoon wrote:True that, but in my defence all my formal practices come after I attend to life's other demands (family, other people, work etc).
The only thing i will say, and it will be a bit cryptic for your liking, but make sure that the movement fits together. Otherwise, you will be causing confusion, not harmony.
Monsoon wrote:The last year was given over to deconstructing my YCF long form and reconstructing it with the help of Dr Yang's excellent DVD and book.
So, what do you do? Do you follow your interests, which may dart off in unexpected directions? Or do you knuckle to it, keep your head down and your eyes firmly fixed on one stylistic path?
So what were your choices, and how have they changed over the years?
Monsoon wrote:Not cryptic at all. I understand what you are telling me and I totally agree. I think the choices I have made, and they represent what I have gravitated toward over time, do fit together very well. Although I will say the the liuhebafa is definitely flavoured with tai ji.
Dvivid wrote:Why do so many threads turn into arguments lately?
pete5770 wrote:Dvivid wrote:Why do so many threads turn into arguments lately?
Why? Because it's an imperfect world out there. No two people have the same opinions and or beliefs about much of anything. This whole forum was put out here under the name "FORUM". Checking the dictionary I think you'll find that it defines forum as exchange of ideas / beliefs / information. There are many, many, many forums out there, of all shapes, sizes, ideals, and reasons. The U.S. Congress is basically a forum. Do they all get along? H*ll no. And they are running(supposedly) the country. I was in the construction business for 40 years. In that time I attended more than a few meetings( you could call them forums) in which all parties got to air their ideas, grievances, solutions, proposals, problems, and all manner of things that related to a certain job. Sometimes the bickering was constant. No one wanting to back down from their position. Things like this happen all the time and all around the world.
Why would you even begin to think that a martial arts forum would be any different from any other forum / meeting of minds? I think it's a little foolish to think that because we are "martial artist's" that we're not supposed to have human traits like being argumentative, rude, foolish, stubborn, sarcastic, and just plain insulting, on occasion. You're dealing with humans with faults, not living in some perfect fantasy world.
In the end it's your forum to do with what you will. You may censor or ban whomever you feel doesn't toe the company line but thinking that this forum will only look at the world through rose colored glasses is to ignore the way the world actually works.
brer_momonga wrote:pete5770 wrote:Dvivid wrote:Why do so many threads turn into arguments lately?
Why? Because it's an imperfect world out there. No two people have the same opinions and or beliefs about much of anything. This whole forum was put out here under the name "FORUM". Checking the dictionary I think you'll find that it defines forum as exchange of ideas / beliefs / information. There are many, many, many forums out there, of all shapes, sizes, ideals, and reasons. The U.S. Congress is basically a forum. Do they all get along? H*ll no. And they are running(supposedly) the country. I was in the construction business for 40 years. In that time I attended more than a few meetings( you could call them forums) in which all parties got to air their ideas, grievances, solutions, proposals, problems, and all manner of things that related to a certain job. Sometimes the bickering was constant. No one wanting to back down from their position. Things like this happen all the time and all around the world.
Why would you even begin to think that a martial arts forum would be any different from any other forum / meeting of minds? I think it's a little foolish to think that because we are "martial artist's" that we're not supposed to have human traits like being argumentative, rude, foolish, stubborn, sarcastic, and just plain insulting, on occasion. You're dealing with humans with faults, not living in some perfect fantasy world.
In the end it's your forum to do with what you will. You may censor or ban whomever you feel doesn't toe the company line but thinking that this forum will only look at the world through rose colored glasses is to ignore the way the world actually works.
oh dear, oh dear...
I'm off to practice ma bu, I was hoping there would be new discussion on Taijiquan principles - .
Monsoon wrote:The last year was given over to deconstructing my YCF long form and reconstructing it with the help of Dr Yang's excellent DVD and book. This process was slow and painful, but I have learned a great deal about this style that I did not know before. Overall it has been a very positive and rewarding process, although I guess the people at YMAA in general will not approve of this independent approach.
It also got me to thinking about what and how we choose to learn. Over the last few years I have picked 2 different jian forms and a dao form. My purpose in mentioning this is not to boast (nothing to boast of really) but to remark on how successive forms get easier and easier to pick up. I realise that in large part this is simply because principles are principles, yet surely this may lead the unwary into a sampling frenzy (hence the title of this post). I feel the siren-like tug of this myself - just watched a very nice Chen style performance and was thinking "ooh, I could have a go at that", before I reminded myself that I have far too much in my cup already!
So, what do you do? Do you follow your interests, which may dart off in unexpected directions? Or do you knuckle to it, keep your head down and your eyes firmly fixed on one stylistic path?
Personally, I practice taijiquan, liuhebafa and a little baguazhang (not nearly enough time for this, alas!). Throw in the three weapon forms mentioned earlier, a little weight training and cardio, some qigong stuff and daily zuo chan (sitting meditation), and it's a wonder I have any time to go to work or do anything else!
The guys on the 5/10 year YMAA course, in some ways, have it easy (relatively). They do not have to balance training with a standard family life and work.
So what were your choices, and how have they changed over the years?
Monsoon wrote:
@Pete, this is not a public forum. Becoming a member in order to post means agreeing to abide by the rules of conduct as set down by the site admin. These rules are not debatable. The site owners can set whatever rules they like. The 1st amendment does not apply on a private forum!
Now, while the forum is relatively open - in that a wide variety of views and opinions are bandied back and forth - if anyone runs foul of the rules they will get reminded of this. Repeated transgressions indicate an unwillingness of the member to abide by the rules they originally agreed to - one of which is that admin/moderator decisions are not questionable.
Frankly speaking, no member has any grounds to complain about themselves being pulled up for breaking the rules. If people don't like that then they should think very carefully about what they post, or even perhaps whether this is the right type of forum for them.
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